I don’t know how I insulted you, Wondering, simply by asking you to do the work that a respectful discussant does for the group. You mention the “facts”, then you should cite the sources when someone asks. I have enough work already w/out doing research when you don’t quite have the facts right. I do appreciate your citations. Thank you.

Excepting the weird two minutes of robotic speech about the evil prisoners at Guantanamo Bay and the minute of robotic speech at the end, the Youtube video of President Obama’s signing the executive orders to close the Guantanamo Bay torture center seems reliable. Limbaugh’s transcript, however, is not accurate.

I don’t see the problem you have with these signings. Why shouldn’t Obama check with those members of his staff who know these details better than he? Aren’t you glad that he will close the torture center? Of course, none of this has any connection with the racism of the window display. I presume, Wondering, that your desire to discuss Obama’s signing orders to close this torture center tacitly admits that the racism of the window display is a given.

Pssht, Tim, read my entire comment (#20). I said that this display was exceedingly small potatoes, barely worth a reaction—except for those who want to claim no racism in the display or want to claim that a display associating Obama & monkeys is the same as a display associating G.W. Bush & monkeys. That’s the reason this discussion continues. Discussing the display is done.

Dane, I won’t speculate about your motivation. It doesn’t matter. That you consider Bush-Dick a great presidency, however, leads one to question the value of any of your judgments.

Historical displays of African-Americans as monkeys are not withstanding. That’s the difference. Thanks for admitting it. Yes, if our planet didn’t bear a history of racism that goes back at least the last 500 years, then there would be no difference in associating a monkey with either Obama or G.W. Bush.

Historical portrayals of black men as monkeys not withstanding, it is no less appropriate to display Obama as a chimp than it is to display Bush as a chimp. You would see that if you could elevate this above race issues and evaluate it in terms of two men duly elected to serve the highest office in the land. Evaluated on the content of their character neither deserves the comparison, but if in the name of free speech one can be thus characterized, then the other is fair game don’t you think?

A simple Google search found what I referenced. I truly do apologize that it is from the Limbaugh site. It’s the only place I could find a transcript.If you ignore Rush’s comments, you will read the actual transcript from the order to close Guantanomo Bay (which *is* different from a bill, yes). The second link is to youtube. FFWD to 3:30 I also heard this on my local radio news and at least two national shows.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_012209/content/01125111.guest.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGIdtZa-DbM

A simple google search would have produced this for you. Instead of knee-jerk insulting me, why not look into what I say? We don’t all have to hate each other because we vote for different people.

Thanks, Wondering, for supporting my point that comparing G.W. Bush to a chimp is making a personal comparison. That is hardly the case when one compares President Obama to a chimp.

As to Obama’s ears, every cartoon I see of him uses the jug-ears. The trained monkey is STILL our former president.
As to “Obama’s first bill signing”, if you have “information” that no one else has, then please cite a source so that we can share it. Or did you get it through an aluminum-foil helmet? Is that also the source of your thinking that belittling groups is “okay”?

Anyone else?