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	<title>Comments on: And this year&#8217;s &#8220;Comic Least Likely to Have Been Reprinted&#8221; Award goes to&#8230;</title>
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	<description>I have no idea whether ''The Stars Are Indifferent to Astronomy'' is a good album, but I might have to buy it just on the basis of its awesome name</description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 18:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: furrykef</title>
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		<dc:creator>furrykef</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 05:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My uncle is black, and after speaking with him, I have decided that indeed this comic is racist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My uncle is black, and after speaking with him, I have decided that indeed this comic is racist.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark in Boston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark in Boston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 03:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The term "colored" goes back a long way too.  Henry Fillmore wrote a series of trombone solos named after the fictional Trombone family, including "Lassus Trombone: de Cullud Valet to Teddy Trombone" in 1918.  Racist humor was very "in" in those days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The term &#8220;colored&#8221; goes back a long way too.  Henry Fillmore wrote a series of trombone solos named after the fictional Trombone family, including &#8220;Lassus Trombone: de Cullud Valet to Teddy Trombone&#8221; in 1918.  Racist humor was very &#8220;in&#8221; in those days.</p>
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		<title>By: Tyrone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tyrone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 20:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, no it's NOT too racist at all.  However, if that's what I see in the paper in the morning, I'm gonna do a SWEET spit-take of my coffee right before jetting out the house, going down to the paper office, and probabaly getting arrested for Disorderly Conduct.  LoLz   Ok, so maybe just a LOT of yelling on the phone, but you get the pic.  Just not what I wanna see in the comics section in 2010, k?  Now, just to put the term "colored" into persepctive, I have been called that twice in the last six months here in the Pacific Northwest (I'm from VA).  Both times, I must say it caught me off guard.    However, the two ladies who called me this were using the word in the phase "You are the first colored man I've ever kissed"  so you tell me where racism is on the word............</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, no it&#8217;s NOT too racist at all.  However, if that&#8217;s what I see in the paper in the morning, I&#8217;m gonna do a SWEET spit-take of my coffee right before jetting out the house, going down to the paper office, and probabaly getting arrested for Disorderly Conduct.  LoLz   Ok, so maybe just a LOT of yelling on the phone, but you get the pic.  Just not what I wanna see in the comics section in 2010, k?  Now, just to put the term &#8220;colored&#8221; into persepctive, I have been called that twice in the last six months here in the Pacific Northwest (I&#8217;m from VA).  Both times, I must say it caught me off guard.    However, the two ladies who called me this were using the word in the phase &#8220;You are the first colored man I&#8217;ve ever kissed&#8221;  so you tell me where racism is on the word&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Irritated Prof</title>
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		<dc:creator>Irritated Prof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 11:52:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Powers--  because there's a difference between seeking out comics in a collection, which you only do if you're interested in that strip from that era, and just having a strip presented to you in a collection of contemporary comics.

As for the fragility of the public-- you can argue about whether we've gone too far, but our social sensibilities are at a place where certain things are deemed offensive, which means they are offensive.  

Personally, as  a Jew, I'd be alarmed to pick up the paper and find a reprint of a 1920s strip with a typical period caricature of, say, a slimy Jewish pawnbroker.   We just don't expect to be jolted that way, and, although this kind of thinking can go too far, by and large it's probably a good thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Powers&#8211;  because there&#8217;s a difference between seeking out comics in a collection, which you only do if you&#8217;re interested in that strip from that era, and just having a strip presented to you in a collection of contemporary comics.</p>
<p>As for the fragility of the public&#8211; you can argue about whether we&#8217;ve gone too far, but our social sensibilities are at a place where certain things are deemed offensive, which means they are offensive.  </p>
<p>Personally, as  a Jew, I&#8217;d be alarmed to pick up the paper and find a reprint of a 1920s strip with a typical period caricature of, say, a slimy Jewish pawnbroker.   We just don&#8217;t expect to be jolted that way, and, although this kind of thinking can go too far, by and large it&#8217;s probably a good thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Another BF</title>
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		<dc:creator>Another BF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 11:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"I know a man with a wooden leg named Sam...."

"What's the name of his other leg?"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I know a man with a wooden leg named Sam&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;What&#8217;s the name of his other leg?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Powers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Powers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 11:44:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why would this strip be acceptable in a collection of some sort, but not acceptable as a rerun?  Are the sensibilities of the American public so fragile that an historical strip with anachronistic characterizations might horribly offend them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would this strip be acceptable in a collection of some sort, but not acceptable as a rerun?  Are the sensibilities of the American public so fragile that an historical strip with anachronistic characterizations might horribly offend them?</p>
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		<title>By: Lihtox</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lihtox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 01:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't think the comic is terribly racist by itself, but racism is so often about context: this comic is going to remind people of so many other much worse comics, and it's not something someone wants to see when they open up the daily comics section.  Probably most troubling is the way the black man is drawn, with those huge lips, as if he is actually a white man in blackface.  A standard portrayal at the time, but it's horribly jarring today.  

There's racism and racism of course: the nasty conscious kind which ends in white supremacism and anti-miscegenation laws, and the unconscious kind where people are offensive without meaning to be, out of ignorance or laziness.  It's a shame that we use the same word for both: calling people out for the second kind of racism is actually doing them a favor by letting them know that they are being inadvertantly offensive, but most people do not respond well to it because they think you're referring to the first sense.  Yes, this comic is racist, but easily in the second sense.

@Steffen 25: The only problem with using Ebonics is when the black people are shown speaking their dialect, while the white people are shown speaking standard English (which we usually do not do).  In this case, however, Jeff clearly speaks with a non-standard dialect too, so it's all right by me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think the comic is terribly racist by itself, but racism is so often about context: this comic is going to remind people of so many other much worse comics, and it&#8217;s not something someone wants to see when they open up the daily comics section.  Probably most troubling is the way the black man is drawn, with those huge lips, as if he is actually a white man in blackface.  A standard portrayal at the time, but it&#8217;s horribly jarring today.  </p>
<p>There&#8217;s racism and racism of course: the nasty conscious kind which ends in white supremacism and anti-miscegenation laws, and the unconscious kind where people are offensive without meaning to be, out of ignorance or laziness.  It&#8217;s a shame that we use the same word for both: calling people out for the second kind of racism is actually doing them a favor by letting them know that they are being inadvertantly offensive, but most people do not respond well to it because they think you&#8217;re referring to the first sense.  Yes, this comic is racist, but easily in the second sense.</p>
<p>@Steffen 25: The only problem with using Ebonics is when the black people are shown speaking their dialect, while the white people are shown speaking standard English (which we usually do not do).  In this case, however, Jeff clearly speaks with a non-standard dialect too, so it&#8217;s all right by me.</p>
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		<title>By: John Small Berries</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Small Berries</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 01:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be fair, Sam's dialect seems closer to standard English than Snuffy Smith's.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be fair, Sam&#8217;s dialect seems closer to standard English than Snuffy Smith&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Steffen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steffen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 00:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Czhorat #6

The black fellow is not mangling the English language, he's speaking African American Vernacular English, AKA Ebonics - linguists consider it to be a valid dialect, and in my opinion viewing it as bad English is more racist than having a cartoon character speak it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Czhorat #6</p>
<p>The black fellow is not mangling the English language, he&#8217;s speaking African American Vernacular English, AKA Ebonics - linguists consider it to be a valid dialect, and in my opinion viewing it as bad English is more racist than having a cartoon character speak it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 23:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quite interesting.  There was a bit of controversy awhile back close to my area when an antique store had a KKK outfit on display.  The owners claimed the "historical context" argument, and I don't doubt them, but it sure shows there's a fine line between historical context and bad taste.

On another note regading this comic, I'm glad to see that being shocked at something caused hats to fly off heads even back then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quite interesting.  There was a bit of controversy awhile back close to my area when an antique store had a KKK outfit on display.  The owners claimed the &#8220;historical context&#8221; argument, and I don&#8217;t doubt them, but it sure shows there&#8217;s a fine line between historical context and bad taste.</p>
<p>On another note regading this comic, I&#8217;m glad to see that being shocked at something caused hats to fly off heads even back then.</p>
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